Sponsors system suggestions

Taking into account I receive by OT-Mail many complaints about the sponsors every day I decided to creat this thread.

Are you agree with this system? Why? Why not? And what do you suggest for it?

Hi Daniel... personally i don't agree with this system, because it's very unconstant and injust with the people, and it takes more luck than experience to have an appropiated sponsor in the relation either with the historial and the tournaments you have won. For example, this are the two offers i had after winning the Tennis Masters of Hamburg (19 in entry rank, 17 in champions race):

I knew I was going to have bad offers respecting from my previous sponsor, but i hope you Daniels can give a solution... that's the reason why I've cancelled, the "hope " [smiley="razz"] ... and look, I have also won US Open 12', Hamburg 13', and Siebel Open 14'... mine is just a little example, but the case of others like Pier Yaryura before, was really shaming...

I understand too that if the persons that are in the best positions also achieve the best sponsor they would never fall from the top of the rank, but if the game gives to some persons there sponsors according to their position and historial, they should do it with everyone, because also the game is full of luck in winning or not. At least, make it real in this way.

Hope you can find a solution. Thanks for your time,
JnBuxx

This is the letter i was going to post... anyway...

Dear Daniel Mecke,
Several time has passed since the first time we (Spanish forum) started to discuss about sponsors and how they managed (and still do it) to evaluate the offers we receive. There were a lot of topics, splited by some time. Most of them reached four pages but one more than 10! Conclusion? Anything. We started comparing sponsors and every theory we made, immediately went to rubbish as a user shows his sponsor up.
Well, to simplify, WE ARE TIRED OF SPONSORS AND THE INJUSTICIES IT PRODUCES. There are several examples of users that earn “X” money, and then improved there ranking with great effort, and when they asked a new sponsor, it offered X/3. On the other hand… there are players out of the top 100, who are earning more than a top 30. You may said: “the could have caught the sponsor when they were top 30 2 seasons before”. Well, this is one of the point i have a great idea to talk about…
Daniel (Scarcella) told us you know your system is awful and you are thinking about changes… the question is: do you know with changes are you going to make??? Perhaps some users (including me) could have some great ideas to discuss in order to make it fair for everyone.
Thanks for all.

Ideas?????? I told you all to discuss them in our forum first cause that will be easier...nevermind

as i said, my idea relies on a "more-updated sponsor", what do i mean??? The sponsor should have take care of the last ten-week-results at first place, then, the ranking, and then, only ATP Titles (taking care the importance of each one as well, it's better to win 1GS and 2 MS rather than 5 "common" atp-tournaments)

Everyone hope Daniel (Mecke) will change this $$·"!&/(&amp$(/!·&%$ sponsor system. Clear¿? [smiley="smile"]

EDIT: WHO WAS THE %$"·()=&·/"()!$&·"()$ user that chose "NO". Man! Gonna kill you!! [smiley="evil"] [smiley="evil"] [smiley="evil"]

I voted yes.

A lot of guys receive a terrible sponsor, please fix it.

what i wanted to say is that, those who have won an ATP, have a plus in their sponsor... as you said..it's very difficult to win atp tittles, so, i think, they shoud be priced...

well, i'm leaving to a party (my girfrield's mother)... if i'm alive tomorrow...i will explain why i think challengers and lower titles should not have been taken into the sponsor...bye!

I will try to help you explain this: IS LOGIC. A sponsor doesn't pay too much attention for a player that wins a challenger and lower tournaments: it pays attention for those winners of great tournaments, because the sponsors pay someone to use its raquet, or logo in the clothes, for being publicited, that's basic ... and it won't be much publicited in a challenger, but it would in a MS or GS where it's sponsored player has won the tournament, because everyone was paying attention to him and that's what the sponsors search for... if that's the way, many top players should be achieving better sponsors than they have by now.
Im ok Mariano? xD

I think that you have to deserve something but not as winning an ATP title. May be an offer that you don't notice about it, but it has to be calculated in my opinion.

I think the best ranking must be add to the sponsor sytem , the ranking too , and the best ranking also . For example Leyton Hewwit was number 1 , but now he is top 100 but th esponsor still give him lot of money cause he was a great player to be number 1 . Do you aunderstand what i want to say? .



That`s all .



Juanchooo

i don't agree with you Juan. If you reach number 1, it's cause of winning important tournaments... and that will be priced enough. I don't think being number 1 two weaks deserve something just because you are number one...

but what about players who won big titles before this new change (and they don't have good ranking)?


i mean.. i won masters series madrid year 11 (and some others atps series).. and it's not a "small title".. so.. it means that i will receive good offers from sponsors?

or because of my low ranking (55 i think) i won't receive good offers?

what will be the "formula"? what will be more important? our actually ranking or our titles?

In that part i think Daniel said that palayers who were in the top of the ranking (it means won important titles too) are going to recieve good offers too, so don't worry [smiley="wink"]

well... but can you estimate when Mecke is going to change the sponsor system? I think that affects to every player... and should take the first priority to be changed...

Sorry but... that's not an improvement like the ot cup, that's going to be a fixing of something that has been affecting the gameplaying since it appeared... i think that must be repaired as soon as you can. We respect your times for sure, but also in my opinion that could enter in the "bugreport" or "mistaking" place [smiley="razz"] and that's not something for the change between seasons.

But if the system is bad, it's got to be changed! Make better that way! Why don't you sit and concentrate on a player that has one grand slam, 2 master series, and achieves the same than a rank 200? How could be that possible?? You are making a laugh of me and too much players, that should achieve much more!! I've explained more in the topic after this one.

Thanks.

Julian, how can Daniel make any change if there is nothing decided yet... first of all, we have to put this mess in order and state CLEAR how the new system should be for us...then, we have to tell Daniel and, IF he decides it's right... put it on work...

Be quiet men...